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"Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley Click to email on Jan-29-02, 08:06 AM (PST)
Just a quick question...If I am writing a sitcom with no teaser leading into a credit sequence, but rather a cold open, would I title this as Scene One? Not a big deal, but I'm just curious how I should count the scene. Thanks.
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RE: Cold Open Question, Bonita, Jan-29-02, (1)
RE: Cold Open Question, Larry Brody, Jan-29-02, (2)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bradley, Jan-29-02, (3)
RE: Cold Open Question, Lonnie, Jan-29-02, (4)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bradley, Jan-29-02, (8)
RE: Cold Open Question, Julius Rosenblatt, Jan-29-02, (6)
RE: Cold Open Question, Irv the Nerve, Jan-29-02, (7)
RE: Cold Open Question, Clomey, Jan-29-02, (9)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bradley, Jan-29-02, (10)
RE: Cold Open Question, Tim Muncher, Jan-29-02, (11)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bradley, Jan-29-02, (14)
RE: Cold Open Question, Danny T, Jan-29-02, (12)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bradley, Jan-29-02, (13)
RE: Cold Open Question, Danny T, Jan-29-02, (17)
RE: Cold Open Question, Captain Corcoran, Jan-29-02, (5)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bonita, Jan-29-02, (15)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bradley, Jan-29-02, (16)
RE: Cold Open Question, Tim Muncher, Jan-29-02, (18)
RE: Cold Open Question, Bradley, Jan-29-02, (19)
RE: Cold Open Question, Captain Corcoran, Jan-30-02, (20)
RE: Cold Open Question, Danny T, Jan-30-02, (21)
RE: Cold Open Question, Prof, Jan-30-02, (22)
RE: Cold Open Question, Prof, Jan-30-02, (23)

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1. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bonita Click to email on Jan-29-02, 12:30 PM (PST)
It depends. If you are doing a spec of an existing show, then you would do it the way the show does it. If you're writing an original pilot, then you can do it however you want.

Bonita

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2. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Larry Brody Click to email on Jan-29-02, 12:34 PM (PST)
Most of the specs for various shows that I get--and there's a lot of them--call the cold open--get ready for it--"Cold Open."

Think what I could do with the Gordian Knot!

LYMI,

Brody

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3. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley Click to email on Jan-29-02, 02:15 PM (PST)
Jeez, just asking. But my question actually regarded the second scene. I've seen it labeled "SCENE ONE" and "SCENE TWO" after the cold open. Not a big deal, but I thought there might be a more universal way to do it. And since none of my Raymond scripts are episodes with cold opens, I thought I'd ask.
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4. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Lonnie Click to email on Jan-29-02, 02:24 PM (PST)
"COLD OPEN",

then...

"SCENE ONE", or, "Scene 1" whichever.

Technically, the Cold Open is a transition form of the old Teaser...and is handled the same way.

However, if you're writing a spec -- get a copy of their scripts...they're all just a little different.

:)

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8. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley Click to email on Jan-29-02, 05:31 PM (PST)
Thanks a bunch!
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6. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Julius Rosenblatt Click to email on Jan-29-02, 04:14 PM (PST)
"Jeez, just asking."

Does that mean you believe LB's response was too hard on you?

I would suggest you find another business, my friend. Where I live, snideness and sarcasm are SOP. And that's when we all like each other.

Orange (County) Julius (whose feelings are heavily fortified these days, which is probably why Irv the Nerve's lovelife is better than mine)

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7. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Irv the Nerve on Jan-29-02, 05:02 PM (PST)
OCJ strikes again!

But I know the truth about you Juice--and your current relationship. And even if that ain't love so what? It's a darn sight better'n a cold open!

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9. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Clomey on Jan-29-02, 05:33 PM (PST)
Have you been practicing your embellishment and suspense in the posts Irv? This little nugget has me wanting more info on the salcious sex life of one O(C)J.

Can't wait for the next installment of the Irv the Nerve/Chicago Lady saga.

Clomey

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10. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley on Jan-29-02, 05:40 PM (PST)
Oh, I can take sarcasm alright. In fact I invite it because it confirms that the other person doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

:)

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11. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Tim Muncher Click to email on Jan-29-02, 06:04 PM (PST)
o man u r toast. i am so feeling for u.

"Don't kill him, O(C)J! Please don't kill him, sir!"

there. mebbe thatll help.

munchman

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14. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley on Jan-29-02, 06:35 PM (PST)
Thanks. He-he. But I think OCJ knows what I'm doing. By god, I hope so...lol.
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12. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Danny T on Jan-29-02, 06:06 PM (PST)
You can't seriously believe that. Mistaking disdain for incompetence is costly.

And mistaking goodwill for disdain is even more costly. But as my little brother says, "catcher's catch can."

DT

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13. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley on Jan-29-02, 06:26 PM (PST)
LOL!!! Ditto that: "Mistaking goodwill for disdain is even more costly." Everyone is so testy here. I was just having fun. I'm not stupid and I love to have fun with the best of 'em. So bring it on! He-he.
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17. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Danny T on Jan-29-02, 08:38 PM (PST)
That's cool, dude. But you gotta grasp the vernacular before you dive into the funning. If four people drew the same conclusion about your note... well, maybe there's some static on your end.

It's like that Sprint PCS guy says. Static sucks. Go digital.

DT

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5. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Captain Corcoran Click to email on Jan-29-02, 02:53 PM (PST)
I believe that "Frasier" calls its opening sequences "Act One, Scene One." I've also seen some "NewsRadio" scripts where the teaser is just called "Act One, Scene A," even though it leads into a title sequence. So I think you'd be on fairly safe ground calling it "Act One, Scene One" (or Scene A), but I agree that the safest bet is to track down a shooting script for whatever show you're writing for.

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15. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bonita Click to email on Jan-29-02, 06:40 PM (PST)
Every script I've seen of Raymond starts with a Teaser, not a cold open. Do your homework, dude. Are you sure your scripts are actual produced episodes of the show?

And why are you hating on Larry? He created this great site, he's a great guy--you shouldn't bite the hand that's trying to help you.

Bonita

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16. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley Click to email on Jan-29-02, 06:50 PM (PST)
I'm just having a good time, just like the people who pounced on me after my first post. I don't take anything personally, and I assume no one here does either. I actually really like it here. Finally I found an intelligent message board used by people that I can truly learn from. It's certainly better than reading a book. By the way, I saw your Girlfriends episode last night. A lot of fun! Keep up the great work!

Bradley

PS: My Raymond scripts are straight from the production company, but I didn't have an episode where they didn't use an opening title sequence. I wasn't sure if they went with Teaser, Cold Open or Scene One when no title sequence is used. I guess that was my real question.

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18. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Tim Muncher Click to email on Jan-29-02, 09:08 PM (PST)
>Finally
>I found an intelligent message
>board used by people that
>I can truly learn from.
> It's certainly better than
>reading a book.

donchew worry darlin. ill take care a dat.

munchman (try this to make yer funnin a little ezier ta take dude)

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19. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Bradley on Jan-29-02, 11:18 PM (PST)
LMAO
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20. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Captain Corcoran Click to email on Jan-30-02, 06:44 AM (PST)
>Every script I've seen of Raymond
>starts with a Teaser, not
>a cold open. Do
>your homework, dude. Are
>you sure your scripts are
>actual produced episodes of the
>show?

I never referred to RAYMOND. I referred to the actual produced scripts of FRASIER (cold open, which it called Act One, Scene 1) and the late lamented NEWSRADIO (which called the teaser "Act One, scene A"). Now who's not doing homework?

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21. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Danny T on Jan-30-02, 08:37 AM (PST)
I've been playing the role of agitator a lot lately, so I'll switch hats and bring peace to the masses for a little while.

The stuff about RAYMOND and homework that Bonita was referring to was this note by Funnin' Bradley:

"Jeez, just asking. But my question actually regarded the second scene. I've seen it labeled "SCENE ONE" and "SCENE TWO" after the cold open. Not a big deal, but I thought there might be a more universal way to do it. And since none of my Raymond scripts are episodes with cold opens, I thought I'd ask. "

So she wasn't slagging on you, even though the thread structure suggested otherwise. She was just calling out Bradman, which was way fashionable yesterday.

Peace to all... but mostly to me,

DT

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22. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Prof Click to email on Jan-30-02, 08:45 AM (PST)
If this threat proves anything, it's that cold opens are (ouch) hot.

My apologies,

Prof

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23. "RE: Cold Open Question"
Posted by Prof Click to email on Jan-30-02, 08:52 AM (PST)
For two seconds there I was quite proud of myself for having learned the word "thread" as it applies to message boards and using it in a sentence. Then I saw what I had actually written.

So if this thread proves anything, it's that here in the new cyberworld the Prof is no longer a threat.

Prof

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